Interview of Kali Akuno, co-founder and co-director of Cooperation Jackson in Jackson, Mississippi, about the situation in the context of the coronavirus pandemic, the consequences for African Americans, workers and the newly unemployed people left by the crisis, and their perspectives of struggle and organisation. He tackles the issues of unemployment and exploitation, as well as racism, police violence and black militancy in the Trump era. Interview led by Mireille Fanon Mendès France, co-chair of the Frantz Fanon Foundation.